Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

02/13/2012 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 10 min. after Session --
+ SB 30 RETURN OF SEIZED PROPERTY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 216 REGULATIONS: INFORMATIVE SUMMARY/BILLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 216(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 296 CRIME OF ESCAPE/DEF. OF CORRECT. FACILITY TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
               SB 30 - RETURN OF SEIZED PROPERTY                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:10:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTO announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
CS FOR  SENATE BILL  NO. 30(2d  JUD), "An  Act providing  for the                                                               
release of certain  property in the custody of  a law enforcement                                                               
agency to  a crime victim  under certain conditions  and relating                                                               
to requests for that release by the office of victims' rights."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TAMMIE  WILSON,   Alaska  State  Legislature,  on                                                               
behalf of the  sponsor, Senator Fred Dyson, explained  that SB 30                                                               
would establish  a statutory process  by which crime  victims may                                                               
request that property being retained  by law enforcement agencies                                                               
for  evidentiary  purposes  be  returned to  them.    When  crime                                                               
victims have their  property held by a law  enforcement agency as                                                               
evidence, it  can sometimes  be months or  even years  before the                                                               
property is  returned.  Such  delay places additional  burdens on                                                               
crime victims,  including, in some  instances, having  to replace                                                               
the property, and  the consequences can be even  higher for crime                                                               
victims who are small business  owners if the property being held                                                               
is a crucial  component of their business.  Under  SB 30, a crime                                                               
victim could ask [the Office  of Victims' Rights (OVR) to request                                                               
of the law  enforcement agency holding his/her  property that the                                                               
agency return the property to him/her].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTO  noted that  members' packets  contain a  letter from                                                               
one such  crime victim, a  small business  that's had one  of its                                                               
vehicles  and trailers  held as  evidence for  over a  year.   He                                                               
mentioned that [the legislature]  wants to ensure that businesses                                                               
which are the victims of crimes are not hampered by such delays.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  offered her  understanding that  there                                                               
hasn't been any opposition to SB 30 thus far.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:14:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES   KOPP,  Staff,   Senator   Fred   Dyson,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature,  in  response  to  questions and  comments  -  after                                                               
mentioning  that he  is a  retired law  enforcement officer,  and                                                               
that the  purpose of SB 30  is to restore crime  victims to "pre-                                                               
offense  status" with  regard to  their property  - explained  on                                                               
behalf  of  the  sponsor,  Senator Dyson,  that  currently  crime                                                               
victims  may  ask  a  law  enforcement  agency  to  return  their                                                               
property, and  nothing precludes  the agency  from doing  so, but                                                               
there  is  no specific  statutory  process  in place  to  address                                                               
situations in which  the agency doesn't return  the property when                                                               
so asked, and  SB 30 would remedy this lack  without impinging on                                                               
the  ability of  crime victims  and law  enforcement agencies  to                                                               
reach agreement  about returning  property without help  from the                                                               
OVR.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPP, in response to  further comments and questions, pointed                                                               
out that  the court can already  use existing law to  address any                                                               
ownership issues that  arise, and that nothing in  the bill would                                                               
preclude the  court from continuing  to do so.   Under SB  30, he                                                               
went  on to  explain,  a crime  victim who  has  not had  his/her                                                               
property  returned  after  requesting  it of  a  law  enforcement                                                               
agency, may  ask the OVR  to also request  of the agency  that it                                                               
return  the  property.   The  OVR  may  then  do so  after  first                                                               
investigating whether the crime victim  is entitled to the return                                                               
of the property.  Once the  OVR has made such a determination and                                                               
subsequent request  of the agency,  the agency shall -  within 10                                                               
days -  then request a hearing  before the court to  determine if                                                               
the property shall  be released to the crime victim.   Nothing in                                                               
the bill would  prevent an agency from returning  the property in                                                               
question prior to  the conclusion of such a  hearing, and nothing                                                               
in  the  bill  stipulates  when  such a  hearing  shall  occur  -                                                               
calendaring the hearing  would still be at the  discretion of the                                                               
court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPP  added that under SB  30, if the property  is being held                                                               
in connection with  a criminal case, the hearing  shall be before                                                               
the court  with jurisdiction over  the case, and  otherwise shall                                                               
be before a  district court or superior court  where the property                                                               
is located.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:25:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW  WALKER,  Owner,   Computer  Renaissance,  explained  that                                                               
through  the use  of  a fraudulent  check,  merchandise from  his                                                               
company  was  stolen on  September  9,  2010, but  because  three                                                               
defendants were involved in the  crime, the merchandise, which is                                                               
still being held  as evidence, won't be returned  until all three                                                               
defendants have been prosecuted, which has  yet to occur.  He has                                                               
spent a  considerable amount of  time, he relayed,  attempting to                                                               
recover the merchandise,  but to no avail, and  now it's probably                                                               
worth merely a fraction of its original value.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:27:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
D.  VICTOR KESTER,  Director, Office  of  Victims' Rights  (OVR),                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  explained  that SB  30 would  provide                                                               
crime victims with a mechanism  by which to recover property held                                                               
by a law  enforcement agency, and would provide the  OVR with the                                                               
authority to request  of a law enforcement agency  that it return                                                               
property to  its owner.   Under SB 30,  a crime victim  could ask                                                               
the OVR  to request of  a law  enforcement agency that  it return                                                               
the crime victim's property, and  the bill contains provision for                                                               
ensuring that the evidentiary value  of the property is retained.                                                               
Indicating  that the  OVR  is  aptly suited  to  help such  crime                                                               
victims because  of its expertise  and familiarity  with Alaska's                                                               
criminal justice system,  he also offered his beliefs  that SB 30                                                               
is  aligned with  Article  I,  Section 24,  of  the Alaska  State                                                               
Constitution  - which  provides, among  other things,  that crime                                                               
victims  shall be  treated with  dignity,  respect, and  fairness                                                               
during all phases of the  criminal and juvenile justice process -                                                               
and that in terms of property,  the bill could help restore crime                                                               
victims  to  the position  they  were  in  prior to  having  been                                                               
victimized.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KESTER, in response to  earlier questions, indicated that the                                                               
court  could  use  existing  law  to  address  ownership  issues;                                                               
surmised that the  OVR could arrange for an  expedited hearing in                                                               
situations  where such  is warranted;  and pointed  out that  the                                                               
language of the bill stipulates  that a hearing for property held                                                               
in  connection with  a criminal  case shall  be before  the court                                                               
with jurisdiction over the case,  and otherwise shall be before a                                                               
district court or  superior court where the  property is located.                                                               
Hearing venue,  he assured the  committee, is  not going to  be a                                                               
problem because of  the flexibility the court has  with regard to                                                               
ensuring that proceedings are fair  to all parties.  Referring to                                                               
Mr.  Walker's testimony,  Mr. Kester  ventured that  SB 30  could                                                               
provide  a  means by  which  such  business owners  could  obtain                                                               
assistance.  In  conclusion, he indicated that  his testimony was                                                               
in support of SB 30.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KESTER and  MR. KOPP, in response to  further questions, both                                                               
referred  to  Section  1's  proposed   AS  12.36.070(d)  -  which                                                               
stipulates that if  the court orders the return  of the property,                                                               
the  court  may  impose  any reasonable  condition  necessary  to                                                               
maintain  the  evidentiary  integrity   of  the  property  -  and                                                               
surmised that whether  to order the return of  the property, and,                                                               
if so, whether to impose  certain conditions on that return, and,                                                               
if so,  what those conditions  shall entail, would be  decided by                                                               
the court on a case-by-case basis.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:41:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.   WILSON  pointed   out  that  SB   30  merely                                                               
establishes  a process  that's not  currently available  to crime                                                               
victims, and  surmised that  a law  enforcement agency  would not                                                               
return property if doing so might jeopardize a criminal case.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KESTER, in  response to  a question  and request,  indicated                                                               
that SB  30 won't have any  fiscal impact on the  OVR, and agreed                                                               
to submit a fiscal note to that effect.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG said he likes the bill, generally.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KESTER,  in  response to  further  comments  and  questions,                                                               
pointed out that  if there really are  unanswered questions about                                                               
who  the  rightful   owner  of  the  property   is,  the  process                                                               
established via the  bill would not be  undertaken, because under                                                               
Section  1's proposed  AS  12.36.070(a), the  OVR  would only  be                                                               
requesting of  a law enforcement  agency that it  return property                                                               
if, after  investigating the matter,  the OVR concludes  that the                                                               
crime victim is entitled to the  return of the property under the                                                               
factors  listed in  Section 1's  proposed 12.36.070(c),  which in                                                               
turn stipulates that  in order for the court to  order the return                                                               
of the  property, the  crime victim must,  by a  preponderance of                                                               
the  evidence,  provide  to  the   court  satisfactory  proof  of                                                               
ownership, and any party objecting  to the return of the property                                                               
must fail to  prove to the court, also by  a preponderance of the                                                               
evidence,  that the  property must  be  retained for  evidentiary                                                               
purposes.   Furthermore, the  process provided  for via  the bill                                                               
would  only be  undertaken in  those situations  where the  crime                                                               
victim  has not  had  his/her property  returned after  initially                                                               
requesting  it of  the  law  enforcement agency  himself/herself,                                                               
and, again, Section 1's proposed  AS 12.36.070(d) stipulates that                                                               
the  court  may  impose  any reasonable  condition  necessary  to                                                               
maintain the evidentiary integrity of the property.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:54:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KESTER, in  conclusion, reiterated his beliefs that  SB 30 is                                                               
in  alignment  with the  Alaska  State  Constitution and  is  not                                                               
anticipated to  have a  fiscal impact on  the OVR,  and indicated                                                               
that in  the past, whenever the  OVR has assisted a  crime victim                                                               
with  getting property  returned,  it has  been relatively  clear                                                               
that he/she  owned the  property and why  he/she wanted  it back,                                                               
and  that a  means  of  retaining the  evidentiary  value of  the                                                               
property was available.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPP, indicating that SB  30 was carefully crafted with input                                                               
from the  administration, added his understanding  that the court                                                               
wouldn't even calendar  a hearing requested by  a law enforcement                                                               
agency  under the  bill until  all [ownership]  issues have  been                                                               
satisfactorily resolved - again, via existing law.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTO surmised  that once  the property  is returned,  the                                                               
owner could choose to dispose of it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KOPP agreed,  but again pointed out that  the bill stipulates                                                               
that the court  may impose any reasonable  condition necessary to                                                               
maintain the  evidentiary integrity of the  property, which could                                                               
include requiring that the owner retain the property.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG characterized SB 30 as a good bill.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:59:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Legal  Services                                                               
Section, Criminal Division, Department  of Law (DOL), in response                                                               
to a question  - noting that SB 30 applies  to all crime victims,                                                               
not just victims of property  crimes, remarking on the importance                                                               
of retaining  certain property's evidentiary value  in compliance                                                               
with existing  law, and  surmising that  there will  be instances                                                               
when one of  the parties will want the law  enforcement agency to                                                               
retain the  property because of  its evidentiary value  - offered                                                               
her belief  that the  DOL has  submitted an  indeterminate fiscal                                                               
note for SB  30 because each request made under  the bill for the                                                               
return of  property will  have to  be addressed by  the DOL  on a                                                               
case-by-case basis and  thus the bill's fiscal impact  on the DOL                                                               
is  not yet  known.    In response  to  a  further question,  she                                                               
indicated her belief that as  currently written, the bill doesn't                                                               
require modification.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:04:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRED DYSON,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor,  opined                                                               
that  SB 30  is  necessary  to ensure  that  a  crime victim  has                                                               
his/her  property returned  as soon  as possible;  explained that                                                               
the  bill  merely  establishes  a process  by  which  to  address                                                               
situations in  which a law  enforcement agency hasn't  returned a                                                               
crime victim's property when asked to  do so by the crime victim;                                                               
concurred that issues of questionable  ownership can be addressed                                                               
via existing  law; and offered  his understanding that SB  30 has                                                               
been thoroughly vetted by all interested parties.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTO announced that CSSB 30(2d JUD) would be held over.                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 30 Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 2/3/2011 9:00:00 AM
Return of Seized Property
SB 30
SB 30 Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
SSTA 2/3/2011 9:00:00 AM
Return of Seized Property
SB 30
SB 30 - Explanation of Changes.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 1/20/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB 30 - Letter of Support Alaska Homebuilers.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 1/20/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
SB 30 - Letter of Support Nat'l Federation of Indep. Business.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
SFIN 1/20/2012 9:00:00 AM
SB 30
CSSB_30_(2dJUD)_Fiscal_Note_LAW.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
SB 30
HB 216 CS -R.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 216
HB 296 Amendment D.4.pdf HJUD 2/13/2012 1:00:00 PM
HB 296